On this episode of More Than a Therapy Couch, Tianna sits down with Martha Pender, LCSW, LCADC to explore how motivation evolves and what it really takes to make long-term changes in mental health and well-being. Together, they break down the five Stages of Change—from precontemplation to maintenance—and discuss how motivational interviewing can help clients shift from uncertainty to action. Martha shares practical tools, real-world examples, and professional insights into how language (aka “change talk”) reflects someone’s readiness to grow. This episode is perfect for anyone navigating change, whether you're a clinician, in therapy yourself, or simply curious about what drives transformation.
Guest: Martha Pender, LCSW, LCADC
Topic: Unlocking Motivation, Stages of Change, and Motivational Interviewing
In This Episode, We Explore:
🔹 What is Motivation?
— The difference between intrinsic vs. extrinsic motivators
— Why understanding your “why” is key to lasting growth
🔹 The Stages of Change Model:
Precontemplation – Not yet considering change
Contemplation – Thinking about change but feeling unsure
Preparation – Making a plan and setting intentions
Action – Actively working on the change
Maintenance – Sustaining progress and preventing relapse
🔹 “Change Talk” in Therapy
— How therapists listen for language that signals readiness for change
— The role of motivational interviewing in helping clients move forward
🔹 Growth Isn’t Linear—And That’s Okay
— Why revisiting earlier stages isn’t a failure, but part of the journey
🔹 Common Barriers to Change and How to Tackle Them:
✨ Practicing self-compassion
✨ Building a strong support system
✨ Taking small, manageable steps
✨ Reaching out for professional help when needed
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